ColdFusion debate on digg
January 16, 2006
I was surprised to find that my AJAX zip code example made it on digg today. I was wondering why I was getting so many blog comments today...
Anyways since I used ColdFusion in this example you will find some debate on ColdFusion in the comments on digg.
I must say the digg crowd is starting to look much more like slashdot, you will see what I mean when you read the comments. When I had articles up on digg a few months ago folks were much less brutal.
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Yea, it is sad when people that make tech decisions become so wrapped up in hype or loyalty to a product or ideal that they write off every other tool for doing something as "trash".
Great work for trying to make an ajax tutorial to help others out and ignore the mindless crap some pour on you for being friendly.
Great tutorial. People who make comments like some of those on Digg are simply just not very bright. Like you point out, there is no substance to their comments, and they are also posting an unadvisable, semi-permanent reference to their ignorance. Coldfusion is great, and keeps getting better. (see recent TIOBE rankings that has it ahead of .NET) Thanks for the info, as always, Pete. Keep up the awesome work and energy with the web dev in CF, it's helping us all demonstrate what a phenomenal tool it is to our colleagues and customers. -Mark Holton http://holtsblog.blogspot.com/
Doesn't look much like a debate. More like just mindless slander. A debate has well presented arguments. ;)
I love it when people have nothing better to do with their time than to post negative comments. Kinda reminds me of some of the negative forums out there where people like to bash and berate the people asking the questions because it makes them feel superior to the "n00bs" that are asking the questions. Digg that.
I agree, the postings for the 'CF Debate' were pretty weak, most of the posters have no clue what CF can really do for them. It's obvious that most of them have never used it before.
Yeah I probably shouldn't have called it a debate, but I thought it was worth pointing out what people were saying.
Is anyone else as tired as I am of all the whiners and complainers that like to post comments on Digg?
Of course not every news item is going to be applicable to everyone! (I've seen several items about Photoshop tutorials and I'm sure not everyone has Photoshop--why aren't they complaining about not having Photoshop...)
If a news item doesn't apply to you, just move on to the next one.
The negativity is bound to happen as a site reaches the scale that Digg has. I must say I really enjoy your how-to posts like these and think they transfer well to other server-side technologies.
As someone who has spent a lot of time with ColdFusion (and still tinker with it from time to time), I must say while I don't think it will die completely, it will have trouble gaining any further share. I had the most fun of my career working with ColdFusion, so I have no hard feelings. But, if you're a Linux shop, you're probably going to go with PHP or Rails. If you're a Windows shop, you're probably doing .Net. Also CF is a tough sell for enterprise apps, I don't even really buy it.
But really, it comes down to cost. It can be very difficult to get budget managers to pay for CF when there are free options available, no matter the productivity gains may be gained. That one roadblock is enough to stall its growth. I'm running MX now, but will be migrating apps to .Net so that I don't have to worry about not getting $$ for a future upgrade cycle.
just my $.02
I was po'd enough with the torrent of negative Digg comments to every piece; and the fact that they sort-of direct server-toppling loads willie-nilly, I wrote a blog post about it (http://technicalmike.blogspot.com/2006/01/digg.html).