Matt Woodward has an entry worth reading about frameworks, and the Mach-II is dead fervor.

"if in some particular case Mach-II seems to be a better fit for one reason or another, I'm not going to avoid it just because it's falling out of favor with some folks.

Well we had our first lunch time CFUG meeting today (we used to meet at night at 7:30), I think I like the lunch time meeting better - and many of our members seam to prefer it because it doesn't cut into their personal time.

Here's a recent conversation I had with my girlfriend:

Me: We have a speaker coming in from Rochester, NY (Tracy Logan) for our CFUG meeting.

GF: That's cool, what is he going to talk about?

Me: Mach-II

GF: The shaver?